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N.T. Wright vs. John Piper ::: Ding Ding Ding

A few excerpts from N.T. Wright on his exchange with Piper from Kingdom People.    

My anxiety about what has now been seen as the traditional Reformed view (though there are many traditional Reformed views!) is that it focuses all attention on ‘me and my salvation’ rather than on ‘God and God’s purposes’, which – as we see in the Gospels, and in e.g. Romans 8 – are much wider than just my salvation. 

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David Platt the Next John Piper?

Whenever people talk about David Platt’s messages, their eyes light up, their head shakes, and they speak using extremities of language.  As they recommend for other people to listen to him, they make no suggestions.  They make only imperatives.  “You have to listen to him. … I’m not kidding.  You have to.”  

If you don’t listen to David Platt, your skin will rot and your eyeballs will fall out of their sockets.  You will be cursed forever.  That’s what they say.

Could David Platt be the next John Piper?

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Don’t Uncritically Follow John Piper

The Internet Monk warns Reformed folks who love to read John Piper stuff not to follow him on everything.

(HT: Internet Monk)

UPDATE: iMonk entertains my question about which of Piper’s teachings he is concerned about.  The following comes from the thread of his comment.   

1) Christian hedonism can very easily be construed as a Gospel of works rather than sola fide, esp when we say that we are commanded to delight in God in all things.

2) Piper’s pastoral use of his Edwardsian view of the Sovereignty of God has led to some uses and pronouncements that seem very deficient in pastoral wisdom and compassion.

3) I think some of his teaching in the past intentionally bred fanatical applications, esp in regard to martyrdom.

4) I believe he is of two minds on C.S. Lewis and needs to make a clear statement in regard to whether Lewis is an orthodox teacher of the Gospel.

5) I sense a lot of God-centeredness at the expense of Christ-centeredness. Edwards over Luther.

6) Mark Dever once said in an interview, when asked for a brief summary statement on a variety of contemporary reformed men, that Piper was ruthlessly logical. I would agree, and I think that is the difference in the Piper we heard before his Romans study and the one we hear now.

I like Piper and have benefited from him a lot.

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