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A blogger named Todd chimed in on a thread at the Crimson Window. Here’s part of the discussion.
Todd: FYI, there was no notice that recording was prohibited so I actually have all of the messages from the conference (including the free Q&A session) available as MP3’s. Just email me at email@example.com or comment on my blog at ToddOnGod.com and I can get you copies. They’re not the high-quality $50 variety, but you can hear what is said. Also, I am in the process of responding to the presenters myself. I have already posted up through David Allen’s message against Limited Atonement. Enjoy.
Me: bootlegger calvinist … cool
Todd: It’s not really bootlegging. I checked with my church’s tech guy about the legality of it and he said that if no signs were posted or remarks made to the contrary then speeches are public domain and can be recorded and distributed by whomever. Plus, isn’t $50 for a CD extortion? Especially for people who had already paid $95 to be there in the first place(!)
Me: I was making a joke … Thanks for making them available! Yes. It’s highway robbery! Amrinian extortionist!! It’s all about filthy lucre! (another joke)
Then … an ironic twist in the thread.
Todd: All, I just wanted to let you know that I woke up this morning to find that my blog had been deactivated because of copyright infringement, one would assume over the conference audio files. As you may have noticed I had already moved to take down these files and so this is a little irritating to me. I am disappointed that the powers that be behind the John 3.16 Conference would move to do such a thing without even having the integrity to contact me first. Please spread the word about this as you see fit. Thanks.
Todd: All, It appears that I have regained my site, but I was right that it had come from someone accusing me of direct linking to the product being sold by Jerry Vines Ministries at $50 a piece. It’s unfortunate that personal gain and fear of accountability has taken us away from reaching out to contact our brothers before going to the authorities, which is the essence of 1 Corinthians 6. It appears that I am allowed to post these after all, but seeing what derision has proceeded from it already I am unsure if I will.
Have a nice day.
Interesting … Todd has a point. Why didn’t someone contact him before going to authorities?
——————————HT: The Crimson Window———————————-
Not even Sovereign Grace comes close to anything like this.
Ok … so I stumbled upon this quotation in a roundabout way while I was on the Thinklings blog. It’s the iMonk’s response to the John 3:16 conference. It’s important because I don’t think the iMonk is a Calvinist, so to hear him address the issues this way was enlightening and encouraging. Here’s the excerpt.
Really, this is silly. Just silly. Calvinists in the SBC are doing far more good than harm, and the truth is that the fundamentalists need someone to blame for the fact that Jerry Falwell-style Evangelicalism is falling apart. One live-blogger said that 90% of the audience was middle-aged and over. That’s your problem old white guys: younger SBCers aren’t even listening to you anymore. You are talking to yourselves.
—————————–HT: The Thinklings—————————-
James White fired back from London after snipes from Georgia initiated hostilities. Here is an excerpt from his response:
Isn’t it ironic? I am in London, England, preparing to do public debates with Islamic apologists, seeking to present and proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ and His Lordship, and the Arminians are all gathered at Johnny Hunt’s church to try to convince folks not to listen to the Calvinists. Don’t you find something just a bit ironic in that? I’m out on the front lines pressing the claims of Christ and calling Muslims to bow to His lordship while those who will falsely accuse me of being a “hyper-Calvinist” are safely ensconced in the friendly environs of Georgia, sniping at Reformed folks—who, of course, were not invited to participate, debate, or discuss. … If you can evangelize, call men to Christ, believe in common grace, etc., and still end up smeared by the “hyper” name, then clearly the debate has devolved down to a level beneath what is proper for believers. … I did notice with some sadness that, as usual, the main thrust of the presentation was not biblical at all. And this will always remain the difference between the Reformed and those who cling to man’s sovereignty.
——————-HT: Alpha and Omega Ministries Apologetics Blog———————
Timmy Brister has blogged about the John 3:16 conference. He’s got all the highlights of the anti-Calvinism rhetoric listed on his blog.
Here is an excerpt from one of his lists:
4. The purpose of this conference was intended to be a “majoritarian response to the ‘Building Bridges’ and ‘Together for the Gospel’ conferences” (according to Lemke).
5. If there ever was a place and time that Southern Baptists would have discovered a counter-resurgence of non-Calvinists among younger Southern Baptists, this conference would have been it. However, live-blogging revealed that it was more comparable to the SBC Annual Meeting than Together for the Gospel. In other words, Vines and Co. are without generational succession.
—————————-HT: Provocations and Paintings———————————-
UPDATE: Timmy did not attend the conference as I had posted earlier. Rather, some friends of his did, and they sent him info via internet as they were there (see John Mark correct me in the comments thread).