Recalling Job – After God makes a deal with the devil concerning Job’s family and wealth, and God takes everything from Job, Job’s now classic response was this: “Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I shall return there. The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away. Blessed by the name of the Lord” (Job 1:21). And the scripture adds, “Through all this Job did not sin nor did he blame God” (Job 1:22).
But round two saw to it that Job’s health was taken from him so that he had a miserable physical existence. Job’s three friends came “to sympathize with him and comfort him” (Job 2:11). They stayed quiet for seven days, “for they saw that his pain was very great” (Job 2:13).
“Why did I not die at birth, come forth from the womb and expire? … Or like a miscarriage which is discarded, I would not be, as infants that never saw light. … Why is light given to him who suffers, and life to the bitter of soul, who long for death, but there is none, and dig for it more than for hidden treasures, who rejoice greatly, and exult when they find the grave? Why is light given to a man whose way is hidden, and whom God has hedged in? For my groaning comes at the sight of my food, and my cries pour out like water. For what I fear comes upon me, and what I dread befalls me. I am not at ease, nor am I quiet, and I am not at rest, but turmoil comes.” (Job 3:11, 16, 20-26).
Job Had a Suicidal Mentality, And His Friends Were in Hush Mode – Clearly, Job would rather be dead than experience such emotional and physical pain. This is the suicidal mentality that inevitably flows from a miserable existence. When you are in so much pain that you cannot rejoice, cannot find hope, cannot see things getting better, and cannot live a normal life due to the pain, why even live? Especially for Christians—why not be at home with the Lord where all our pain is gone? This makes suicide especially attractive to believers—they know where they will go if they kill themselves. Yet, it is precisely the Christian who desires to be with Christ that also desires to please Christ and therefore not commit such a grave sin as suicide. This makes the struggle all the more complicated for a believer.
Two things I desire to point out about the book of Job so far. 1) Job wanted to die. Although God testified of Job that “there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, fearing God and turning away from evil,” when suffering of such great magnitude came upon him, though he still loved and had God to hope in, he nevertheless wanted to die. He cursed the day of his birth and was utterly depressed. 2) Job’s friends were silent when they saw Job’s calamity was great. Even these men—who assumed that Job must have sinned for God to allow such great calamity to fall upon him—even they held their tongue at the sight of Job’s suffering.
John Piper’s book When the Darkness Will Not Lift is worth reading on this topic of depression. Not all depression owes to neurological problems; some is just a result of mind & body’s response to stressful situations and sustained hardship.
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thanks for the plugs Ryan
My husband wrote an article for Boundless about depression from the perspective of someone who’s dealt with it, that might be worth a read, called Kamikaze at my Back. 🙂
thanks for the plug Julieh
I tried to leave this a minute ago but I don’t think it worked:
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It’s a jake brand argument. I also was telling you i’ll be up Sept 13 or so, so we should hang out bro. Take care.
ps love the pics – your site looks nice.
You don’t know me. I came across your site randomly, but what you said concerning this whole issue of depression is completely true. I wish more people loved people through depression. It’s a hard thing to do. Most people tend to just walk away because they “don’t understand” or because they don’t “have the time to constantly listen to people complain”. What I think was great about Job’s friends was that in chapter 2 the bible talks about them sitting with him for seven days saying nothing. Now, granted when they started to speak, they should have just stopped, lol…but they were there and they sat with him…they tore their clothes etc. But you’ve already said all this! Just wanted to say that I enjoyed what you had to say concerning this whole subject. And..on another note, I think I know you. Were you a counselor at Merriwood Christian camp?? Your name sounds super familiar..and that’s the only place I can pull it from. Check out my blog at http://www.xanga.com/notmyhome21085
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Miss. Anonymous,
Thanks for your comments! Most people don’t have the patience to sit with those who are depressed and just simply be there for them. There is definitely a need for balance, but in America and in our fast-paced lifestyles, we tend to gravitate towards NOT spending much time with people, but moving from one thing the next. Having to take lots of time out to just listen to someone tell you about their problem(s) is something most people are burdened by rather than seeing it as an opportunity to minister to someone.
And I wouldn’t call somoene’s pouring out their heart “complaining” unless their issues were petty.
YES!! I was a counselor @ Merriwood! Were you a camper? I tried to visit your website and it was temporarily blocked or something.
A Word in session just what I needed thanks bro
My pleasure.